16-04-2024, 07:15 AM in response to #41497
To be fair if you are in standing as a reform candidate and not racist then that’s more of an outlier
16-04-2024, 07:15 AM in response to #41497
To be fair if you are in standing as a reform candidate and not racist then that’s more of an outlier
16-04-2024, 07:27 AM in response to #41511
Realistically, Corbyn's natural role has only ever been as an idealistic backbencher who was a perpetual thorn in the side of the Labour party leadership, as he rebelled against them no less than 428 times.
He assiduously clung on to and promoted the student politics he'd adopted in his youth. His propulsion to the leadership of the party was a 'quirk of fate' and an unlikely combination of events on a par with Peter Sellers' character Chance Gardner in the film 'Being There'. Beyond there, he doesn't bear closer examination. IMHO 16-04-2024, 07:34 AM in response to #41514 DesCartes Wrote: Realistically, Corbyn's natural role has only ever been as an idealistic backbencher who was a perpetual thorn in the side of the Labour party leadership, as he rebelled against them no less than 428 times. I would disagree. Yes it was a freak occurrence that he became leader but he shifted the Overton window for a while and many of his policies were popular. An interesting question is why virtually all of his policies were abandoned and we are back to the usual cluster of parties around the centre right economic policies that haven’t worked for a decade and a half. 16-04-2024, 07:39 AM in response to #41515 Baldman Wrote: An interesting question is why virtually all of his policies were abandoned and we are back to the usual cluster of parties around the centre right economic policies that haven’t worked for a decade and a half. Precisely because of what I said. Emperor's New Clothes syndrome. 'Shifted the Overton window'? He was defenestrated... 16-04-2024, 10:00 AM (This post was last modified: 16-04-2024, 10:02 AM by NWS.) in response to #41511
Fear is the word you are looking for. As has been mentioned, Corbyn had a lot of popular policies. However, rather than focus on policies all we heard was how Corbyn was the friend of terrorists, an anti-semite and not prepared to bomb people to oblivion. Des uses phrases like 'student politics' and balders used 'democratic deficit' (to back a direction that he said was not a good idea). Good examples of using nonsense from media moguls who were, in reality, protecting their own self-interest rather than worrying about the country. Even die-hard Labour supporters bought the nonsense in droves and voted in a corrupt liar.
Now we watch as Labour tailors its policies to change very little and, in this way, nothing will change. The rich get more and more and the majority get less and less with many middle class people believing that either they are/will be OK or, worse still, that there is still plenty of opportunity for them. There isn't, it's being slowly being stripped back. Even the other day, Meerkat was arguing we should give very rich people more - through tax breaks - or they would take their ball home. What a defeatist attitude and a complete lack of belief in the majority of the people of Britain. 16-04-2024, 10:13 AM in response to #41511
Which policies were popular?
16-04-2024, 10:25 AM in response to #41542 NWS Wrote: Fear is the word you are looking for. As has been mentioned, Corbyn had a lot of popular policies. However, rather than focus on policies all we heard was how Corbyn was the friend of terrorists, an anti-semite and not prepared to bomb people to oblivion. Des uses phrases like 'student politics' and balders used 'democratic deficit' (to back a direction that he said was not a good idea). Good examples of using nonsense from media moguls who were, in reality, protecting their own self-interest rather than worrying about the country. Even die-hard Labour supporters bought the nonsense in droves and voted in a corrupt liar. Fear? You mean the fear that a simple old grandpa was being used as a set up for the dangerous ones like McDonnell. Bit like the GLC coup. 16-04-2024, 10:30 AM in response to #41546 16-04-2024, 10:36 AM in response to #41547 16-04-2024, 10:43 AM in response to #41550 |
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