17-04-2024, 08:13 AM in response to #41690
17-04-2024, 08:13 AM in response to #41690 17-04-2024, 08:32 AM in response to #41701 Baldman Wrote: We can eradicate anything that is a strain on the NHS merely by creating a section of society (today’s young people) with fewer rights than us older people. I may, of course, just be enjoying triggering a few people... 17-04-2024, 08:48 AM in response to #41697 DesCartes Wrote: The Boomers should be ashamed of themselves again, for wanting to deprive the youth of today of the opportunity to experience a wide range of smoking-related serious illnesses, and early death, that they themselves enjoyed. Do you have any reliable figures that show the cost of smoking to the NHS far exceeds the tax revenue from cigarettes? 17-04-2024, 08:56 AM in response to #41714 17-04-2024, 09:13 AM in response to #41714 Greek Card Wrote: Do you have any reliable figures that show the cost of smoking to the NHS far exceeds the tax revenue from cigarettes? Apologies, it should have read 'cost to society' and not 'cost to the NHS': https://ash.org.uk/media-centre/news/pre...-estimated 17-04-2024, 09:35 AM in response to #41697 DesCartes Wrote: The Boomers should be ashamed of themselves again, for wanting to deprive the youth of today of the opportunity to experience a wide range of smoking-related serious illnesses, and early death, that they themselves enjoyed. But think of jeopardy for the youth with vaping. They've got the thrill of the unknown. 17-04-2024, 09:37 AM in response to #41719 DesCartes Wrote: Apologies, it should have read 'cost to society' and not 'cost to the NHS': So on one side of the ledger we have the tax take from smoking and on the other we have all the social costs. Nothing included about smokers dying earlier and saving billions in other health care costs, pensions and social care. To be expected from an anti-smoking lobby group I suppose but I'm surprised you got sucked in. 17-04-2024, 09:40 AM in response to #41725 Greek Card Wrote: So on one side of the ledger we have the tax take from smoking and on the other we have all the social costs. However many smokers still have all those costs, just earlier, plus smoking related treatment costs. Probably higher health and benefits costs for much of their life too (on average). 17-04-2024, 09:49 AM in response to #41726 17-04-2024, 09:55 AM in response to #41725 Greek Card Wrote: So on one side of the ledger we have the tax take from smoking and on the other we have all the social costs. https://ash.org.uk/resources/view/the-ec...of-tobacco 'A study commissioned by the US tobacco company Philip Morris published in 2000 examined the economic impact of smoking on the Czech Republic. It concluded that tobacco smoking provided a net benefit to the economy, largely because of “reduced health care costs” and “savings on pensions and housing costs for the elderly” that would not have to be paid since smokers die earlier than non-smokers. In fact, the smoking costs were shown to be 13 times greater than the ‘benefits’.' |
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